Minds Behind Maps

Ep 3 - Denise McKenzie - Location data ethics

Episode Summary

Denise McKenzie works as a consultant, these days mostly at the Benchmark Initiative, having developed the Locus Charter, an open set of guidelines promoting the ethical use of location data. We talk ethics, policy making and the role of education quite broadly.

Episode Notes

Welcome to the 3rd episode of Minds Behind Maps!
As I mention in the episode intro, Denise was one of the first people I wanted to talk to when starting this podcast. I hope you enjoy this conversation!

Denise's social media's:


Links towards topics of discussion:

- Locus Charter: https://ethicalgeo.org/locus-charter/

- Benchmark Initiative: https://benchmarkinitiative.com/

- Strava reveals location of US military bases: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/28/fitness-tracking-app-gives-away-location-of-secret-us-army-bases

- Elaine Ball's Get Kids Into Survey: https://www.getkidsintosurvey.com/

- Andrew Zolli, from Planet: https://twitter.com/andrew_zolli

- Book recommendation: Bill Gates': 'How to Avoid a Climate Disaster'


And some time stamps:

3:00 : Episode Starts, Denise presenting herself

5:20 : Why is location data ethics important?

7:35 : Public involvement & outreach

9:05 : The Locus Charter

13:35 : How would applications & companies share their experiences

19:05 : Response to the Locus Charter

21:40 : Covid increasing the public's' interest in location data

29:50 : How do we decide what is ethical?

35:00 : Laws / Policies

39:05 : Denise's early career path

45:05 : The term "geospatial"

49:15 : Education in geospatial (& geography)

55:25 : Data Trusts

61:15 : Difference between Locus Charter & Data Trust

1:02:55 : The data take of open source

1:08:15 : The Non-for-Profit scene

1:14:45 : Book recommendations!


For those who do check these show notes, and if you feel like it, you can reach out to me ;)


Most importantly though, thanks for listening :)